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  ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.

  i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.

  it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.

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  Richard Oliver

  And yes notsurewheretogo. I have stated that if it wasn't for the fact that I was gay I would love to be a witness again. I have come here to get information like letters and such to stay on top of their current policies so that I can live my life as much as I can like a witness. I have never hid that, I have been open about that.
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  2.16.2017 NJ Star-Ledger Ad: "Were you sexually abused by the Jehovahs Witnesses?"

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.

  pretty telling.. .

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  Richard Oliver

  If you look at their website. The lawyers are mostly litigators that have dealt with asbestos, mesothelioma and product liability cases. It is a number of firms who have joined together to support one another in this. They have teamed up with a firm that has specialized in child abuse cases for the expertise in handling the emotions that would come up with clients in dealing with this.
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  ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.

  i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.

  it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.

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  Richard Oliver

  Yes, Notsurewheretogo. Just because you don't agree that watchtower is responsible for the actions of a third party they are defending them. Me, a number of lawyers and about a dozen District and Circuit Court judges all fall under that category of recognizing that one cannot control what another person does. That makes all of those judges apologists as well. Even the Conti appeals court ruled that, the actions that Kendrick did to Candace in his own time was not the fault of Watchtower, the only negligence was the assigning of Kendrick to work with Candance in an official activity of the congregation.
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  ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.

  i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.

  it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.

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  Richard Oliver

  Just fine. If you look at the analysis that was prepared by the ARC staff. About a quarter to half of the list is where only one victim had accused an individual of abuse, about another quarter to a third is two or three accusations, which is awful that they were able to re-offend and hurt another one or two children. But a good portion is that only one victim was ever recorded either by the branch or by law enforcement in the ARC staff communicating with local law enforcement.

  So my point is just like yours, they shouldn't be held liable for what happened leading up to the abuse. They should change the way that they handle the accusation following the report of the abuse and report it to the police.
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  Sisters as Ministerial Servants?

  by Spoletta in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my wife has been trying to convince me that the organization is hinting at the possibility of making some older sisters ministerial servants.

  she is awake to a lot of the false doctrines, but is still clinging to the hope that the org may become more progressive in the future.

  anyone else pick up on this?

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  Richard Oliver

  Steve:

  Please actually read my comments instead of immediately attacking me. I never claimed that the Australian Government would force a religion to do something. Other people have claimed that. Other people have claimed that the ARC has authority other than to investigate and make recommendations. I have research the ARC proceedings and have said it like it would be like a Blue Ribbon Commission in the US but with a little more authority to issue subpoenas and take testimony that is subject to the pains and penalties of perjury. The commission is made up of many commissioners but like in the case of the Watchtower investigation, only one commissioner was assigned to the final report in preparing it. My statement was that people on this thread has said that they are going to make changes because Watchtower knows that Australia is going to force them to ordain women, but if the Australian government was to do that to JWs they would have to do it to all of the religions that do not ordain women or put women in leadership roles.
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  ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.

  i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.

  it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.

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  Richard Oliver

  And I don't believe that every case of child abuse in JWs is the fault of Watchtower. Yes, there are certain people where if the commit this crime Watchtower should be held liable. But just the the fact that they are in a congregation somewhere, then that means that they are financially liable for someone else's actions. And court after court in the US has said the same thing. You cannot be held liable for the actions of a third party who you have no control over.
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  ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.

  i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.

  it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.

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  Richard Oliver

  Yes steve. When new information is gathered one's opinion can adjust and change.
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  Sisters as Ministerial Servants?

  by Spoletta in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my wife has been trying to convince me that the organization is hinting at the possibility of making some older sisters ministerial servants.

  she is awake to a lot of the false doctrines, but is still clinging to the hope that the org may become more progressive in the future.

  anyone else pick up on this?

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  Richard Oliver

  I bring up other religions and denominations because there have been comments about how the ARC is going to force Watchtower to appoint women and other activities. You cannot view that in a vacuum. For the Australian government to do that, they would also have to force other religions and denominations to do the same thing. That seems pretty hard to believe that they would do that.
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  ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.

  i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.

  it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.

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  Richard Oliver

  I have a mix bag of how many of you guys believe. I think that Watchtower policy should change so that as long as elders are not barred from reporting it and it is a crime in that jurisdiction that it should be reported to the police even if they are not mandated to do so. I believe that would help future victims of the same person from being abused. But I don't believe in the way that many people characterize it as a pedophile paradise, where victims are groomed by other witnesses for molestation. Does it happen? of course it happens in the way that a child is molested that if the family wasn't witnesses they wouldn't have been a victim. But like the ARC analysis finds there are cases where it happens in the family, and that victim would be associating with that abuser regardless of their association with a congregation.
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  How can the WTS call themselves Christians when they have no Christian church?

  by TTWSYF in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so was jesus a fool or a liar?

  he said that his church would last all ages, didn't he?.

  math 16:8and i say to thee: that thou art peter; and upon this rock i will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

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  Richard Oliver

  I hate to wade into these dogma issues because my opinion on these type of things maybe different from others and I hate to start an argument about scripture. But the same claim can be made for Anglicans, Lutherans, Methodists or Baptists among other Christian denominations. The only religion that feels that their authority is derived from Jesus telling Peter that is the Catholics. This is the way that I understand it, that Catholics view the pope as an extension of the authority given to Peter by Jesus. And that Luther and others had a problem with the idea of a Pope who felt that he derived that authority that way. They then created denominations that were separated from the Catholic Church.

  If I am wrong please let me know, but that is how I have always understood how Catholics view the Pope.